unitedhealthcare. >>> hello from new york. i'm chris hayes and i have msnbc contribute tore joy reed and eli lake chris anders of the aclu and i amy goodwin. we are talking about john brennan. he's been instrumental in devicing the strategy for wage what can is no longer called officially the war on terror but is something. you know, activities in a whole bunch of countries and a lot of targets killing. and one of the questions i think on the table is -- what role he has played in that. and also this kind of accountability question. i wanted to bring into the conversation, we were talking about the kill list. i also wondered when we talked about accountability, to bring in the story offen. >> -- i think it's important, these two things are happening in the same week. which he's the cia agent on the 25th and he agreed to serve 35 months. he e-mailed the name of a covert cia officer to a reporter and in the midst of a. >> reporter:ing out what was going on with the torture regime in the cia. he's the first current or former cia